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Bush pastor RIPS McCain over Sturgis, backs Obama

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Rev. Kirbyjon Caldwell, the pastor that presided over Jenna Bush’s wedding ceremony and is considered a close personal friend of President Bush, absolutely ripped into John McCain today on a conference call with reporters. Rev. Caldwell took issue with Senator McCain’s remarks that he made at the Sturgis bike rally last week when he volunteered his wife for the rally’s “beauty” pageant, the Ms. Buffalo Chip pageant. For those who were not familiar with that story, the Ms. Buffalo Chip pageant is a topless modeling contest, that among other things, involves a section with a banana.

Caldwell comments highlight exactly why true family values conservatives should have a problem with John McCain.

From ABC:

“Well, I don’t know a lot about John McCain’s family history, I do know, however, that as recently as last week I think it was, the Senator made a comment in South Dakota regarding his wife entering some Buffalo Chips contest which is this topless deal and if she were to enter she would probably win it and my personal opinion and based on my understanding of the Christian faith, that’s not not, N-O-T, not the type of expression that a presidential candidate, or anyone for that matter who is a follower of the Christian faith, ought to make,” said the Rev. Kirbyjon Caldwell. “I don’t know if that is a perfect case in point, but it surely does help to juxtapose the DNA of Senator Obama, if you would, versus the DNA of Senator McCain.”

The article also points out that Caldwell is backing Obama for president, and is a member of the Matthew 25 network. For anyone who is not familiar with the Matthew 25 network and the great work they do, you can check out cardboard’s Daily Kos diary currently on the Recommended list there.

During the conference call, Rev. Caldwell also hits John McCain on his adultery during his first marraige:

His marital history has been duly recorded,” said Caldwell, referring to McCain, “and as recently as yesterday I think it is, our pastor from Saddleback, Rick Warren indicated that he would not feel comfortable voting for an adulterer and I don’t know exactly to whom he was referring but I think the data speaks for itself, and again, at the end of the day, and I really appreciate you raising this because, at the end of the day again I think the American public deserves full revelation of the candidate’s character and competency. Character and competency. So, whatever questions that should be asked that would give the voting public an indication as to who they are and what they’ve done should be fair game.”

When the Edwards scandal first came out, a lot of people thought it would be bad for Democrats. But the truth is that the scandal has put the issue of infidelity into the spotlight, which forces McCain to have to answer about his own history with adultery.

The article contains a few other good nuggets, including an admission by a McCain campaign spokesperson that Senator McCain was aware that the Ms. Buffalo Chip Pageant was a topless pageant before he made his remarks at Sturgis, and is worth a read.

But what the article really hits home is that this year, the Republicans no longer have the morality wedge issue to try to scare voters away from the Democratic candidate, and the John McCain is not longer going to be able to count on the evangelical vote as being locked up this year.

UPDATE: The McCain campaign came back at Obama with this amusing response:

“These people are Obama campaign surrogates. These kinds of personal attacks are disgraceful. This absolutely exposes the hypocrisy of Obama’s claim to represent a ‘new kind of politics.’”

ABC also quotes an anonymous Republican strategist as reacting with this amusing comment.

“My advice to the Obama people: ‘proceed with extreme caution.’ They don’t want to get into a discussion of character and background.

Like the Republicans weren’t going to bring all of the “character issues” into the election? The response shows me that they seem to be legitimately scared over the issues of family values and how McCain looks on those issues vs. Obama.

And to make it perfectly clear, Rev. Caldwell is not an Obama surrogate.  The McCain campaign is just automatically trying to paint anyone who criticizes the Senator as a surrogate of the Obama campaign.

UPDATE 2: Rev. Caldwell made the remarks on a conference call that was intended to promote the first pro-Obama TV ad released by the Matthew 25 Network.  I’ve embedded the ad below.

Transcript:

TV Ad Script “Families” 30 sec.
——————————————-
Brian McLaren: Senator Obama began his career working with churches to support families when they lost their jobs.

Pastor Caldwell: As a pastor, I know that you can learn a lot about a man’s character based on how he treats his family.

Pastor Suzette Caldwell: Barack is a man of strong Christian faith who has been married to his wife Michelle for 16 years and is the proud father of two beautiful girls.

Lisa Cahill:  He understands the pressures family are under and what it takes to help families thrive.

Pastor Caldwell:  Senator Obama has stood by families his entire career–

Pastor Suzette Caldwell:  including his own–

Brian McLaren:  and as President he will stand by yours.

On Screen: We proudly support Senator Obama for President
Matthew 25 Network – Matthew25.org

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36 Comments »

  1. It’s not a great thing in general making fidelity an issue in Presidential campaigns, but I certainly think it’s indicative of the fact that people don’t know much about McCain’s life.

    Comment by dansac | August 15, 2008 | Reply

  2. This crap is so lame…all that happened over 20 years ago. So what???? Christians are supposed to *not* pass judgements like this silly pastor is doing. The man doesn’t even understand his own religion. I can’t believe how many Christians are huge hypocrites when it comes to judgementality like this. And McCain’s Sturgis remark was a *joke*…get it? It was just a silly joke.

    Comment by riller | August 15, 2008 | Reply

  3. I could not care less with what consenting adult any politician is having sex with. But since the Republicans ned so bad to talk about it, I do hope that it brings McCain’s infidelity out into the open for all those claiming to be so moral to see.

    Comment by sheber | August 15, 2008 | Reply

  4. John McShame kick his first wife to the curb because of her disability. Just goes to show you what a Low Life he is.

    Comment by Bill | August 15, 2008 | Reply

  5. I love how this guy must be in the Obama camp, just because he’s black and he’s criticizing McCain.

    Religious beliefs and morals aside, the way that McCain treats women ought to be enough to sway anyone from voting for him. From his actions and comments it’s clear he has absolutely no respect for either of his wives, and from his political record, he has no belief in the rights of women.

    Comment by almk | August 15, 2008 | Reply

  6. Riller – considering they are putting themselves up on the block to be judged (I don’t know if you noticed but Johnny Mac’s running for Prez) than we can and should judge them. Especially when this guy and his party (and most probably yours) pretend to put morals and values. “I can’t believe how many Christians are huge hypocrites”- practice what you preach and leave the judging to our Father.

    Comment by Alex | August 15, 2008 | Reply

  7. If I’m remembering correctly, the book Song of Songs, in the Bible, makes a lot of references about a man loving his wife and also being extremely attracted to her physically (yes, even referring to her breasts). So, in McCain’s case, is what he said so “BAD?” Even then, have a sense of humor people! We are truly a weak and shallow-minded society if we base our political opinions on the comments that our politicians make that don’t have anything to do with their leadership abilities.

    Comment by dustin | August 15, 2008 | Reply

  8. Alex –

    “…than we can and should judge them.”

    “…practice what you preach and leave the judging to our Father.”

    -your words.

    Comment by dustin | August 15, 2008 | Reply

  9. McCain is a man of unimpressive character.

    Comment by Troy | August 15, 2008 | Reply

  10. If he’s referring to Wright or that developer in Chicago or those nuts from the 70′s, they’re gonna have to do a hell of a lot better than that! Wright didn’t preach that way for twenty years, nor was Obama wheeling and dealing with Resko or whatever his name is. And he was only 8 yrs. old when Ames and friends did their thing. But let’s look at McCain again. Adulterer, senate cheat even if not cencured. His stance against pork barrel spending is only a ruse to dirvert attention from the vast number of questionable deals with lobbiest over the years. His political career is one borne of oppoprtunity while Obama’s is of necessity borne of the need for political influnance for the good of those who have little or voice and no power. My guess is that the republicans should expect an opponent itching for a fight.

    Comment by laurence | August 15, 2008 | Reply

  11. @riller:

    While I kind of agree that going after McCain about his remarks at Sturgis are reaching, at the same time, if that was the only thing I heard about McCain in regards to family values, that he would, even jokingly, put his wife in a topless beauty pageant, I would also question his stance on family values. How can you not judge in a Presidential race? The whole event is designed around making the populace judge one way or the other who is suited to be president. Caldwell’s remarks did not seem to seek judgment against McCain the person, but rather McCain the candidate. Even if he were, that is not what the admonition against judgment refers to. That refers to the act of condemning someone in your mind to hellfire, which no human has any authority to do. Christians are told to approach brothers and sisters in Christ who have performed public acts that offend them, but they are supposed to do so in private, keeping counsel amongst the brethren.

    As to what happened 20 years ago… The Republicans and especially the McCain campaign and its surrogates have been quick to heap judgment and scorn and doubt on John Edwards and also back on Obama since Edwards is an Obama supporter. There is a phrase that goes “you can’t unring the bell”. The McCain camp is the one that started down this road. If they seek to incriminate another man on the basis of marital infidelity, they leave themselves open to the same questions and deserve the attention that doing so has brought.

    Comment by blinkin | August 15, 2008 | Reply

  12. Who cares what he thinks and who makes him a great judge of presidential candidates??

    Comment by Jack | August 15, 2008 | Reply

  13. McCain and Obama are talking out of both sides of their mouth and sometimes worse.

    They line up these “point people” and dribble out the propaganda.

    Neither candidate has the best intrest of the American peole or understand how to win in a free and open election.

    This Saturday, Senators Barack Obama and John McCain will take the national stage for their first combined national event.

    It will take place at Saddleback Church in Orange County, California.

    Unfortunately, Pastor Rick Warren is recieving extreme pressure from both the Obama & McCain campaigns because they are afraid of having real change and fresh ideas presented by Congressman Bob Barr.

    Despite negotiations and calls to Saddleback Church from leaders from every corner of the political spectrum supporting Bob Barr’s inclusion, we’ve been left out in the cold.

    So far only people getting into the event are Obama, McCain and those who reportedly paid $500 to $2,000 to the church to sit in the audience and television cameras.

    So before the debates begin we see already the two party system trying to impose a “de facto” censorship of political debate.

    I think this is something you would be interested in fighting against. Please help fight against political censorship. Bob Barr and his views need to be part of the national debate for our next president.

    http://campaign.blog.bobbarr2008.com/2008/08/15/its-time-to-fight/

    Comment by PerhapsHowever | August 15, 2008 | Reply

  14. LOL, McSame is an idiot! I honestly cannot imagine anyone with a single ounce of common sense endorsing McSame.

    JT
    http://www.FireMe.To/udi

    Comment by Jim McDish | August 15, 2008 | Reply

  15. So is someones religion and how they practice it an issue or not? Because if it is then both Barack and McCain have problems fully understanding christianity. However, the last time we had a perfect christian on this earth i believe it was Jesus (yea, i get he was a Jew). But honestly if you believe in God you know what McCain did was wrong, but you also know Barack Obama defending Jerimiah Wright was wrong. So you’ll have to decide on another reason to vote for someone.

    Comment by japat | August 15, 2008 | Reply

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    Comment by Sil | August 16, 2008 | Reply

  18. Well–McCain did admit to calling his wife a trollop and a cunt. He deserted his first wife to marry a rich one after she waited for him as a POW and got in an accident which left her disabled. He now thinks his cunt/trollop could win a topless contest–he probably thinks she would make a pretty good stripper or hooker too, since that is what a cunt and trollop does–we see a man who if not a true believer in Christ, is tacky and chauvinistic as heck–if nothing else. As for what he does really stand for–McCain has no respect for his wife, any other woman who expects his feelings for her would be different or deferential is just blind–and any man who respects women would not sanction or condone his remarks. On the other hand, since he advocates hot water for dehydrated babies and thinks that no nation invades other sovereign nations in the 21st century–there are more salient reasons to see McCain as something not worthy of a vote and worse–besides his obvious disrespect for his wife and every other woman.

    Comment by geraldine | August 16, 2008 | Reply

  19. I just think that it’s totally awesome that the “close friend” pastor of the Bush clan has the same grip on the English language as good ol’ Dubya himself.

    Can’t these people take speech and diction classes?

    Jeebus!

    Comment by G.M. Palmer | August 16, 2008 | Reply

  20. The Character Issue

    Slick Willy was a competent President who turned out to be a first-class narcissistic creep.

    Dubya might be a likable guy if he wasn’t so far in over his head as to screw things up for everybody through sheer incompetence, and wasn’t of his Kennebunkport clan. And wasn’t an Oil Man. And wasn’t such an illiterate, crass, cynical, calculating buffoon. And . . . well you get the idea: scion of Senator Prescott, that’s all I need to know.

    McCain, by all objective accounts I can muster, is also a creep. He has no executive experience, never was the sharpest knife in the drawer, has an explosive temper and warped sense of humor. He takes the Gold in Political Pandering, and has removed the word flip-flop from the current lexicon simply because the media can’t run with that angle every single day without any breaks. He almost certainly will continue the GOP ploy where they show us all how bad our government is by running the government badly.

    Obama is a master salesman, is supremely confident and has to hide his cockiness. He conforms to old-fashioned idealistic ways of politics, and in many ways he stands alone, a leader waiting for his followers to get with the program and follow already. He must have character flaws: we all do, but his remain shrouded. I wonder if he can win without playing the delicate game of showing character flaws in order to get people to relax about his suddenness on the stage, his age, and his background. With all the made-up, supposed and alleged flaws flying through the sphere, pulling a Hillary and showing weakness to his advantage might be the feat of Hercules required to earn the office. He has more executive experience than his opponent, and seems to consistently deliver the goods.

    They all are Patriotic Americans with strong egos, trying to do the ‘public service’ thing on their own terms.

    Comment by spacester | August 16, 2008 | Reply

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  24. I honestly don’t care about either Edwards or Mccains infidelity. I’m agnostic nor do I care about the title of “marriage”. Most people cheat and those that don’t probably want to and just don’t have the opportunity. Mccain was fckd up for ditching his first wife after that accident but I’d imagine half of the men in this country would do the same…If you cheat and want to to continue your marriage, put it behind you and keep moving on. I am definitely voting for Obama and to many people in this country, this is a real point against Mccain, but I don’t think this is more of an issue than where he stands on the REAL issues.

    Comment by PhiLLy in DaLLaS | August 16, 2008 | Reply

  25. Wow,
    A pastor talking about Christian values. Tell Pastor to stop selling beer on Sundays. The football season is upcoming, and Mr. Caldwell is a part-owner of the Houston Texans. The Texans also advertise inside the stadium for beer companies. I would not necessarily take advice from him. Like Gordon Gekko said, “It’s all about bucks kid, the rest of this conversation”.

    Comment by George Bowser | August 17, 2008 | Reply

  26. Republicans can be crafty and diabolical in their attacks. They would like nothing better than for Barack to just sit there while they continue to spit on him. If he defends himself, they usually come back with the same lame line about him taking some kind of high road. Humph! As if!

    Comment by Parker | August 18, 2008 | Reply

  27. Obama and McCain both suck.

    Do you think this pastor has a Lear Jet?

    Probably not. He is just a Pastor, not a Bishop.

    Comment by My Reference Frame | August 23, 2008 | Reply

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  30. …a christian (pastor?) “twists” remarks and “uses” mistakes to promote “his” chosing???
    Let’s not bring up Mr. Obama’s mistakes in life, God knows we’d be critized and ripped apart with the eventual screaming of a race card…

    Comment by de | September 1, 2008 | Reply

  31. I heard enough about Obama’s family when I researched his christian background AND HIS CHURCH CHOICE OF 20 YEARS!

    Comment by de | September 1, 2008 | Reply

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  33. Yes !!!! This Cindy McCain chick, is just who I want in the White House as a shining example of how an American husband, most noteably, the President of the United States, treats and talks about his wife. No doubt she has cute, perky breasts for a woman her age but to be disgraced by an old man who thinks he can get a vote or two by offering to show them off, is just plain disgusting.. The problem is, Cindy didn’t do anything but stand there and look like what she must be, a mentally (and if the truths known, physically) abused spouse who is afraid to rebuke the old sick geezer for fear of retribution later.

    Comment by Gerry | September 16, 2008 | Reply

  34. Well, he called her a cunt because she had the courage to make a joke about him loosing his hair so, he was just getting even by offering her boobs up for display and having her suck a banana then rubbing it a little here and there. They do that in the white house all the time. It’s a class act. Whats the matter, don’t you “christians” have a sense of humor?

    Comment by TIT for TAT | September 16, 2008 | Reply

  35. Will the White House become the Black House if this guy has his way?

    Comment by Bill Cotton | November 4, 2008 | Reply

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